Before you answer or mull it over, take 2.75 minutes and watch the video below (audio needed). If 2.75 minutes is too much, watch 1 minute starting 1:19 minutes into it. It is well worth that minute of watching!
After looking at the wide spectrum of human behavior, and the great discussion that ended up with how we naturally lean towards the “dark” side, this experiment came to mind. THAT’s how monkeys are wired for unfairness, and as the researchers say, this is true of other species they have tried that with.
Could the desire for fairness be innate for humans, too? Is it (best left as) an unattainable goal as Oscar Wilde says? What do you think?
Interesting Trivia: what is the one letter that (fairly or unfairly π ) does not appear in the periodic table?
Answer to last post’s trivia: A group of at least 6 ravens due to the superstition that βif the Tower of London ravens are lost or fly away, the Crown will fall and Britain with it.” Gold stars go to β Beth β and to β Ally Bean β for knowing this bit of trivia I just recently learned π
I loved this! I am going to share it – thanks so much for sharing – fascinating!
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Thanks so much for the reblog! I found it … striking (pun intended π)
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It was fascinating!
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Reblogged this on johnrieber and commented:
A fascinating study in fairness – watch the video you’ll love it!
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Oh that video is hilarious. I am so much with that monkey who protests. I like to believe that fairness is hardwired into human beings, but I dunno. Maybe it’s a skill that some of us learn along the way while other people do their best to avoid the concept.
I’m guessing that the letter ‘K’ is the one that doesn’t appear in the periodic chart.
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One of my favorite moments in the video is when the monkey thatβs getting the cucumber reward checks the rock before handing it over, to make sure itβs not βhis faultβ for handing over a βsubstandard rock.β Thatβs doubly impressive to me, assuming first that the fault might be his? How many of us are likely to blame βoutsideβ circumstances first?
Which brings me to one of my favorite quotes βFaced with the choice between changing one’s mind and proving that there is no need to do so, almost everyone gets busy on the proof.β What does it say about us? π
K is close, and a tricky one: for reasons that I donβt know, itβs the symbol for potassium, so it does get to appear on the periodic table.
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happy to have the gold star!
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You deserve it! π
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that was funny, thanks for sharing. I was hoping the other monkey was going to somehow share his grapes with the other one…
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Oh!!! Wouldnβt that have been something if that happened! Are you familiar with altruistic behavior in animals?
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I am not familiar with that concept. I’ll have to google it. Now that we are self-quarantined, I’ve got some time on my hands!
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Nor am I, will have to look it up as well, you have me intrigued!
What brought about the self quarantine? Are you still in Singapore?
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we just got home yesterday. Since we were coming from Asia, we just decided to self-quarantine when we got back home so that people weren’t worried about hanging around us. But it seems like many people are self-quarantining anyway!
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Great video. After seeing that clip, I searched out the complete TedTalk… very interesting. I may be a cynic, but I think that the desire for fairness is strong when we are the ones being screwed, Unfortunately, when we are the ones getting the goodies, our concern for fairness often disappears.
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That is an ABSOLUTELY MAGNIFICENT observation! the βgrape monkeyβ does not seem distressed or even concerned about the inequity. Or, for that matter, inclined to share any of the grape bounty. I wonder what would happen over a long period of time, if this experiment were to continue?
Love that astute observation!
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I say Q is not in the periodic table. I love that video. I have always felt that we underestimate emotions in animals and that they do feel the same as us. Especially animals that live in communal societies. It just makes sense. I also am a Schnauzer Mum so I definitely know when my dog has got the sooks with something I have or have not done.
The ‘grape’ Monkey does not seem perturbed because whilst they may sense inequity because that may affect their ability to survive, empathy and sympathy is unnecessary for survival. The Grape monkey is also the have, so perhaps guilt is harder to observe without a direct accompanying action.
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I can’t believe I missed out on your thought-provoking comment, I’m glad I got to read it now, even if WAY too late.
Your observation about the grape-monkey being unperturbed by the inequity is fascinating, and true. There’s no sideway glance to find out why the cucumber-monkey is so clearly distressed, no desire to share in the grape-bounty. It is also interesting that the cucumber-monkey makes no appeal to the grape-monkey at all.
It does make one wonder about our definition for “fairness”, and how little candor it actually includes vs. self interest…
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That is a whole discussion right there. Our definition of fairness. I would like to write more about that on my own blog. May I reference this post?
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I’m honored to have sparked this discussion, of course, and I’m looking forward to partaking in it!
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OMg that video was hilarious!!
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Ikr?!?!? It gets me every time I (re)watch it! And did you notice how the grape-monkey doesn’t seem to find anything wrong with the experiment? π
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This could also be an example of the human/monkey nature of being oblivious to the strife of others when you see no problems yourself.
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I think you hit the nail on the head!
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I think I’ve seen that meme face with the words: What if soy milk is only introducing itself in Spanish? π
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If it had Keanu Reeves in it, I might be convinced to have a cup of that … π Have you seen John Wick 4 yet? π
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Yowsa! Haha. I guess I should probably start with John Wick 1!
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Ah, then your first lesson will be “never get between an assassin and his puppy”…
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I should think that would be common sense! π You maybe be amused by these: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ryan+george+john+wick
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Idk if I should be embarrassed to admit how many times I lol-ed irl! But I did π π π How was I never aware of these pitch meetings? π You know what my next rabbit hole is… Thanks for giving me that little shove down it (no, really! I love it! THANK YOU!!!)
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I’m so happy to! This guy is really talented. Let me know which other ones you like. π
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It’s a toughie! There are so many good ones yet to watch! But if you haven’t seen the Twilight one yet, give it a watch (though don’t drink anything while watching it unless you want to give your family a good laugh, too :D)
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I’m fairly certain I’ve seen all of them, but I don’t remember the Twilight one well. Time for a rewatch!
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